The other day while I was getting some photocopies done at a shop, I got into conversation with the shopkeeper, a retired old man from Pune. It started with weather and I told him that I liked Pune for its moderate weather as compared to Delhi with its extreme temperatures. He said, “You are from the north?” and I said, “Oops, I shouldn’t have mentioned especially with so much hate propaganda going on against the north Indians in Maharashtra.” He smiled and told me that Marathis have had it coming for them for quite sometime now. They don’t want to earn a hard day’s living. They want easy money; they close down their shops at 2:00 PM and open at 4:00 PM (it had struck odd to me too when I first came to Pune; 2:00 PM to 4:00 PM being peak shopping hours); they just want to lease out their property and live off the monthly rents and are perfectly content with it; local labourers asking for more money for putting in less hours of work.
He pointed out, on the other hand, labourers from north India are much more hard working and much cheaper than local ones. He sneered and said, “Now what are these factory owners going to do, what with local labourers asking three times more money without the guarantee of returning to work the next day?” While he was talking I remembered a similar conversation I had with one of my friends from Mumbai few years ago. She was expressing the same sentiment about Maharashtrians. She said in Maharashtra one can find Maharashtrians working in government offices like post offices; banks; municipal corporations etc., and they are happy working in such secure jobs, while people from other states have come and grabbed best opportunities and accrued wealth for themselves.
Considering the sentiments of the common man here, the problem is not imagined but a real one and the solution lies not in hate propaganda and violence; the politicians are using this issue as a political gimmick to serve their own ends. It is a social problem that needs to be dealt with care and sensitivity, and measures should be taken that appease the Maharashtrians and at the same time not alienate ones coming from outside Maharashtra.
The best possible way to teach the Thackerays a lesson would be that all north Indians withdraw their investments from the state to develop their own so that the migrant labourers who work so hard can work safely in their own states.
Also, north Indian should boycott watching movies of those Bollywood artists who have voiced their support to the madman Bal Thackeray’s cause.
Grow up Raj Thackeray!!
You are right. It would be the most effective step, what I can say ’Tit for Tat’ for so-called Thackerays, who vandalized the very concept of nationhood .
Live in harmony and unity, you souls of my land, coz these men have only their own means and meanings to confirm. They have nothing for you and they give me none, shun them, for then they will have nothing but northerners and southerners to confer upon.
But then we simply can’t blame anyone for being more hard working or being competitive, can we? U’ve mentioned that Maharashtrians are happy with their secured jobs but the next point you put is that ”people from other parts have grabbed best opportunities and accrued wealth for themselves” even here i fail to understand that who can be blamed for this or why have u even mentioned this...I am sure many Maharashtrians are big industrialists, heroes with immense fame, politicians of power etc etc...
@ YASH...
I am sure we don’t need to find another Thackeray when people like u exist! How can u say that ”. the problem with Bihari people is that they can’t live in peace and crime and politics are in their blood”, don’t tell me that ur one of the saintly people who haven’t even killed an ant...
And I am sorry to say, if actually every one belogig to other state(s) comes back to his/her native place, not only Maharashtrian Govt will be at loss, but the very heart of India would become a desolate desert!!!
After all this is nothing but struggle to survive and to survive a human being can go to any extent. Someone here called Thackeray brothers as cartoon characters nourished by Senior Thackeray and some one even abused Biharis in same tune as Raj T did. This is our weakness since centuries back. We just start fighting without thinking anything positive.
Shiv Khera says – “if someone is abusing and beating your neighbours and you are watching it silently, you are the next in queue to face the same.” So, Yash from Gwalior, this is brotherly suggestion to you dear that people of Madhya Pradesh may similar problem in Maharashtra, Mumbai, Delhi or anywhere else if you support people like Raj T and Bala T.
Just feel the happiness in the writings of Pakistanis like Zafar and Saad. Australians are also talking in same tune against Indians in their own country. This is dangerous trend and it needs immediate check. We should start creating pressure on our state leadership to condemn what Thackerays are doing in Mumbai. The social and political boycott of Thackeray morons is the simple solution of the problem.
@ Eliot
Still hurting from the fact that we beat you ”black and blue” in your own backyard eh? I suppose the CB series defeat still hurts... MATE!
Just imagine, if every state of India has a commercial hub like Bombay, with lots of job opportunities and positive infrastructure, why would anyone come to Bombay to hear this kind of foul remarks?
There is not an ounce of doubt that every Indian has the right to stay and earn anywhere in India, but then again, if there are good opportunities at their hometown, no one would love to leave their families and toil 1000s of miles away from their home.
We talk about condemning Raj, but why don’t we question the Lords of those states (from where these thousands of migrants are taking off daily for every corner of India to earn their bread) about about the lack of development and job opportunities in their state?
Lalu has the guts to say that he will send more Biharis to Bombay, but he is not strong enough to create opportunities for HIS OWN PEOPLE in HIS OWN STATE!
@ Noreen
>>>>> The other day while I was getting some photocopies done at a shop, I got into conversation with the shopkeeper@ Zafar and Saad
Instead of poking in our internal affairs and presenting your hilarious thoughts, why don’t you make yourself more strong to handle the carcass of your DEAD NATION???
@ Sanyog from Chennai
I appreciate your idea, but I feel we should start from the beginning and take each and every politician of India who has damaged the pride of India.
At the end of it all, I repeat that Raj T’s behavior is not at all recommendable, but he has given us a nice food for thought! The constitution of India says ’Equal right and opportunity for every Indian citizen’ BUT... THIS DOESN’T MEAN THAT WHOLE INDIA SHOULD CONGREGATE AT A SINGLE LOCATION...... IT MEANS EQUAL DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT INDIA. Every Indian citizen has a right to demand opportunities from the government of HIS respective state, and to hold it responsible if it fails in providing the same.
BTW, has anyone ever wondered how the next Lok Sabha would look like???
And, which parties will form coalition with which party????
Which party in Maharashtra will seek official partnership of Raj T’s MNS to secure more seats?????
It will not come as a surprise to us, if one fine day, we will see a coalition government in Maharashtra, with Samajwadi Party and MNS as the main partners!!!!
And the last note goes to the TV news channels...
You can repeat the same old footage of ’that taxi driver being beaten by the so-called MNS activists’ for a thousand times, but what have you done to strengthen the solidarity of India in the last couple of months, or ages in fact????? Is it something to do with TRP???
@ Noreen
>>>>> The other day while I was getting some photocopies done at a shop, I got into conversation with the shopkeeper...
...Noreen, I see daily one Bihari going to his native place and bringing 10 with him when he returns to Bombay! Imagine putting 50 eggs in a tray which can hold 20... no doubt the stronger ones survive, but why to act foolish?
bit. They are centered and I have never once heard them talk about North Indians with a derogatory tone.
A handful of zealots(@Andy) should not be allowed to obliterate the general
harmony. Thackeray was with it when he decided to send back Bangladeshi’s. He’s completely off the wall at the moment. If he were to concentrate on his Hindutva issues he’d have the support that he needs. Giving out crazy statements like this will only end his political career.
@ Noreen - The 2-4 PM siesta? Come on that’s not even a debatable issue. Its part of culture. In Italy its the same. That doesn’t stop them from making Ferrari’s though:)
@Zafar and @ Saad - GET A LIFE! Look up Karachi !!!and Islamabad!!! and Baluchistan !!!!- The list is endless for you bastards.
all credits goes to north indians who opposedthe incidence constructively. khin aisa na ho ki raj thakerey ka north india me ana band ho jaye.
bravo to biharis and upians
siv sena, M N S bajrang dal jaise org ko india constitution ki avhelna karne ke liye ban kar dena and people like SAAD and JAFAR should be criticised for there narrowminded ness there is no difference in people like saad jafar and thakereys. the only diff. is that they live in pakistan.
Local Opinions (30)
By perpetuating backwardness, States such as Bihar and UP have cornered the lion’s share of Central funds. Instead of pretending to be victims of discrimination, the rulers in these States should address the burning issues. True, everyone has the right to live or work anywhere in India. But large-scale migration of people from other States into a city is likely to provoke resentment among the locals
I don`t want Mumbai to be the playground of Biharis and UP bhaiyas. I support Raj Thackeray full-heartedly.
mi maharashtracha, maharashtra maza
raj saheb aage badho , ham aapke sath hai .
ya maharashtra sathi mi aka payavar tayar aahe.
hich yogya vell aahe .
marathi mansa jaga ho .
The best possible way to teach the Thackerays a lesson would be that all north Indians withdraw their investments from the state to develop their own so that the migrant labourers who work so hard can work safely in their own states.
Also, north Indian should boycott watching movies of those Bollywood artists who have voiced their support to the madman Bal Thackeray’s cause.
You are right. It would be the most effective step, what I can say ’Tit for Tat’ for so-called Thackerays, who vandalized the very concept of nationhood .
Live in harmony and unity, you souls of my land, coz these men have only their own means and meanings to confirm. They have nothing for you and they give me none, shun them, for then they will have nothing but northerners and southerners to confer upon.
But then we simply can’t blame anyone for being more hard working or being competitive, can we? U’ve mentioned that Maharashtrians are happy with their secured jobs but the next point you put is that ”people from other parts have grabbed best opportunities and accrued wealth for themselves” even here i fail to understand that who can be blamed for this or why have u even mentioned this...I am sure many Maharashtrians are big industrialists, heroes with immense fame, politicians of power etc etc...
@ YASH...
I am sure we don’t need to find another Thackeray when people like u exist! How can u say that ”. the problem with Bihari people is that they can’t live in peace and crime and politics are in their blood”, don’t tell me that ur one of the saintly people who haven’t even killed an ant...
And I am sorry to say, if actually every one belogig to other state(s) comes back to his/her native place, not only Maharashtrian Govt will be at loss, but the very heart of India would become a desolate desert!!!
After all this is nothing but struggle to survive and to survive a human being can go to any extent. Someone here called Thackeray brothers as cartoon characters nourished by Senior Thackeray and some one even abused Biharis in same tune as Raj T did. This is our weakness since centuries back. We just start fighting without thinking anything positive.
Shiv Khera says – “if someone is abusing and beating your neighbours and you are watching it silently, you are the next in queue to face the same.” So, Yash from Gwalior, this is brotherly suggestion to you dear that people of Madhya Pradesh may similar problem in Maharashtra, Mumbai, Delhi or anywhere else if you support people like Raj T and Bala T.
Just feel the happiness in the writings of Pakistanis like Zafar and Saad. Australians are also talking in same tune against Indians in their own country. This is dangerous trend and it needs immediate check. We should start creating pressure on our state leadership to condemn what Thackerays are doing in Mumbai. The social and political boycott of Thackeray morons is the simple solution of the problem.
@ Eliot
Still hurting from the fact that we beat you ”black and blue” in your own backyard eh? I suppose the CB series defeat still hurts... MATE!
Just imagine, if every state of India has a commercial hub like Bombay, with lots of job opportunities and positive infrastructure, why would anyone come to Bombay to hear this kind of foul remarks?
There is not an ounce of doubt that every Indian has the right to stay and earn anywhere in India, but then again, if there are good opportunities at their hometown, no one would love to leave their families and toil 1000s of miles away from their home.
We talk about condemning Raj, but why don’t we question the Lords of those states (from where these thousands of migrants are taking off daily for every corner of India to earn their bread) about about the lack of development and job opportunities in their state?
Lalu has the guts to say that he will send more Biharis to Bombay, but he is not strong enough to create opportunities for HIS OWN PEOPLE in HIS OWN STATE!
@ Noreen
>>>>> The other day while I was getting some photocopies done at a shop, I got into conversation with the shopkeeper@ Zafar and Saad
Instead of poking in our internal affairs and presenting your hilarious thoughts, why don’t you make yourself more strong to handle the carcass of your DEAD NATION???
@ Sanyog from Chennai
I appreciate your idea, but I feel we should start from the beginning and take each and every politician of India who has damaged the pride of India.
At the end of it all, I repeat that Raj T’s behavior is not at all recommendable, but he has given us a nice food for thought! The constitution of India says ’Equal right and opportunity for every Indian citizen’ BUT... THIS DOESN’T MEAN THAT WHOLE INDIA SHOULD CONGREGATE AT A SINGLE LOCATION...... IT MEANS EQUAL DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT INDIA. Every Indian citizen has a right to demand opportunities from the government of HIS respective state, and to hold it responsible if it fails in providing the same.
BTW, has anyone ever wondered how the next Lok Sabha would look like???
And, which parties will form coalition with which party????
Which party in Maharashtra will seek official partnership of Raj T’s MNS to secure more seats?????
It will not come as a surprise to us, if one fine day, we will see a coalition government in Maharashtra, with Samajwadi Party and MNS as the main partners!!!!
And the last note goes to the TV news channels...
You can repeat the same old footage of ’that taxi driver being beaten by the so-called MNS activists’ for a thousand times, but what have you done to strengthen the solidarity of India in the last couple of months, or ages in fact????? Is it something to do with TRP???
@ Noreen
>>>>> The other day while I was getting some photocopies done at a shop, I got into conversation with the shopkeeper...
...Noreen, I see daily one Bihari going to his native place and bringing 10 with him when he returns to Bombay! Imagine putting 50 eggs in a tray which can hold 20... no doubt the stronger ones survive, but why to act foolish?
all credits goes to north indians who opposedthe incidence constructively. khin aisa na ho ki raj thakerey ka north india me ana band ho jaye.
bravo to biharis and upians
siv sena, M N S bajrang dal jaise org ko india constitution ki avhelna karne ke liye ban kar dena and people like SAAD and JAFAR should be criticised for there narrowminded ness there is no difference in people like saad jafar and thakereys. the only diff. is that they live in pakistan.
Global Opinions (10)
Grow up Raj Thackeray!!
bit. They are centered and I have never once heard them talk about North Indians with a derogatory tone.
A handful of zealots(@Andy) should not be allowed to obliterate the general
harmony. Thackeray was with it when he decided to send back Bangladeshi’s. He’s completely off the wall at the moment. If he were to concentrate on his Hindutva issues he’d have the support that he needs. Giving out crazy statements like this will only end his political career.
@ Noreen - The 2-4 PM siesta? Come on that’s not even a debatable issue. Its part of culture. In Italy its the same. That doesn’t stop them from making Ferrari’s though:)
@Zafar and @ Saad - GET A LIFE! Look up Karachi !!!and Islamabad!!! and Baluchistan !!!!- The list is endless for you bastards.
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By perpetuating backwardness, States such as Bihar and UP have cornered the lion’s share of Central funds. Instead of pretending to be victims of discrimination, the rulers in these States should address the burning issues. True, everyone has the right to live or work anywhere in India. But large-scale migration of people from other States into a city is likely to provoke resentment among the locals
I don`t want Mumbai to be the playground of Biharis and UP bhaiyas. I support Raj Thackeray full-heartedly.
mi maharashtracha, maharashtra maza
raj saheb aage badho , ham aapke sath hai .
ya maharashtra sathi mi aka payavar tayar aahe.
hich yogya vell aahe .
marathi mansa jaga ho .